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Posted on 05-02-06 9:27 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Interesting Article posted by unknown person.

Behind the Democracy in Nepal

Believing on this, I am sharing my opinion. `As we see the situation in Nepal, anyone would think that the problem lies between the King,seven Political parties, and Maoists. And why? What each of them wants? We'd find answers for that also. One may say political parties want full-fledged democracy. Similarly Maoists want the communism, and King wants to reestablish Panchayat or something like that in other form. It may sound
weird to you at first, but I see this crisis in completely other way. This is not any kind of conflict between Nepalese themselves. This is something between India and Nepal. It's a grand and interesting game. At the same time, highly challenging for both the states.

Every one of us knows the Indian approach of trying to dominate others, especially the neighboring countries. Defense and foreign affairs related decisions of Bhutan are directly handled by India.Nothing new about it, right? Which country in the SAARC except Bhutan is happy with India?Forget SAARC, what about other neighbors? China? Burma? Mentioning these issues just to rethink on India's foreign policies! Now let us go to what's there between India and Nepal? Care to see it thru big brother's side.

India 's average economic growth rate has reached around 7.5% which is one of the best in world today. India is second largest market in the world in terms of population. Foreigners are seeing China and India as the new markets of this age and investing here rapidly. Bottom line is- India is developing. But how long people will invest in India if basic
infrastructure is not there? How much investments would be there in Agricultural industry if outsiders don't see basic irrigation facilities in the field? In other way, when other area isdeveloping, what about large Indian farmer population? When they'll prosper if irrigation is not there?

And most importantly, energy is vital for all development- industries, technology and everything. India is not capable of producing the required amount.India has successfully taken control over Bhutan's energy resources and already started to have the benefit. Bhutan is also getting something out of it but in cost of sovereignty. Now comes Nepal's part. Nepal is second richest in water resource having potential of large amount of energy. Enough energy to cater India's energy need for industrialization and irrigation and clean drinking water for eastern India (perhaps more than that). For that,India can have straight business deals with Nepal. Take it if u want, but please pay. But no! India wants all those in the way they got from Bhutan. They want to have total control in any hydro projects that'll be build in Nepal. They want to give us something out of it- lot less value than what we deserve.

Since history India has been trying for this and as it was obvious for them to get refusal. In the mean time, foreigners wanted to invest in Hydro projects in Nepal.But India always fumed and fretted for any manipulation in rivers will lead to flood in India. So, all the big projects were cancelled.

India didn't stop. They wanted to get the resources according to their desire. When Nepal refused, they came into games with long vision.What I interpret the game could possibly be as such- Change the non cooperative government of Nepal. Keep people in power that will be ready to sell the resources of the country for some money. And if required, will be ready to sell the whole country. India knew that until and unless royal family is in power, it's not possible.

This is because for the royals, Nepal is the only place in the world where they will get highest degree of respects and they'd never sell the country. For that, India played the key role to instill democracy in 2046 and implant corrupted people in the government. According to the plan, some leaders of ours sold out rivers and lands during the 15 years. That we all know.

Now India could not depend only on those dogs. For that, how to make Nepal completely helpless in shortest period? So that Nepal will come down on the ground with knees. There won't be any other option remaining for Nepal and finally turn towards India and beg them to utilize our own resources, and give some riots two feed Nepalese twice a day. Attack on the source of economy was the simplest route towards Nepal's bring down. And then something happened out of blues.

Maoists were born in western Nepal which is the hub of ayurvedic medicine and one of Nepal's major exports. The area is still under Maoists control and no one knows how much of yarshagumba is smuggled from there every year. Country's revenue is going in vain. And let us recall, it was Girija's tenure and whole Nepal knows how Maoists flourished in no time. Besides that, major objective of giving birth to Maoists was to attack the spinal of Nepal's economy- tourism. And things happened accordingly. Nepal broke and got trapped into the crisis we are seeing today.Now please don't doubt on who gave birth to Maoists. India was the first to call Maoists as terrorists when Nepal government was still calling it as insurgents. After that, US hit listed Maoists of Nepal in top ten among the world terrorists. Nepal government never called them terrorists
those days. And in many cases, we have seen Maoists leader making rounds to Delhi in the same fashion as Girija and his daughter. The recent meeting between the parties and Maoists leaders occurred in Delhi. How could India arrange the facility when Maoists are terrorists? Do they want to send a message thatLashkar-e-taiba should be entertained by governments of various nations?

And surprisingly, nowadays Indian media do not right the word "terrorists" for Nepalese Maoists. The respected word given by them these days is "Nepal rebel". This is all happening because of theslavish mentality India possesses due to 200 years of British rule.

Anyways, now let us come to the major issue. After knowing all these, I m not in a condition to agree that the dispute in Nepal is for democracy. What I believe is it is for nationality. It is for savingthe nation. It is for raising the nation with what we have. It is for replying back to all those who try to play with us. Now, it's up to your intellect to identify who is working for what. What King is doing, parties are doing, and Maoists
are doing.

It'll be a very appreciable opinion if you say what those pancheys are doing again here? We should not forget that democracy is nature's law. When you are born, you come along with your freedom. No force can stop u for that. Let's see the cause and what's happening around. Democracy within the boundary is so important? Or democracy in a country will be there when a country will b there? Let all Nepalese get together and stop the external force for some time when Nepal will try to lift up in a position from where
no force would be able to bring it down. Democracy is always there. When Nepalese can change the government in 2046, same Nepalese can change the government again in 2066. And if required, forever free Nepalese could change the system around the world. We don't have to doubt in our capability. But the current need is not "restore democracy" as India is saying.

Current need for each and every Nepali is to "save and raise the nation". When India, and other far away nations are repeatedly trying to interfere our internal matter,our corrupted media (do I have to name the media which have bosses of NonNepalese origins? Or u find it yourself) is not tired of singing their songs everyday. These Medias are responsible for creating a pessimistic environment in the nation.

People are not protesting those external interferences which are vital in present. Restoring Democracy is not the issue as far as I understand. What if democracy is restored tomorrow immediately? Same old faces who tried to help the neighbor more than own country itself will be back to power. And the process of losing the nation's independency which has been stopped temporarily through king's move will get momentum again.

But if Nepal and Nepalese succeeds to pause that external force for some more time, its strength will be minimized. Many things can happen within few years. Zest is- country first!

Now, If you don't agree on this, I m open to have your opinion. If you feel that there is some logic in what I have said, please forward it to as many Nepalese as possible. There is nothing good happening to you within 24 hours or 3 days or 1 week or so forth.

But only God knows, long term benefits could be there.
 
Posted on 05-03-06 2:03 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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amrit joshi
i agree with you 100% i belive king should stay as a sign of unity. he represnet people as well as our uniqe culture and tradition.. king saw something no one saw what india, netas and mosit had planned 14 months ago......it was just his bad luck .............
and he will never sell his country at any cost...
and i belive constituntional monarcy as well as mulity party government to develop our nation we need some one to watch over these corupted netas...................
jai nepal
 
Posted on 05-03-06 2:26 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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This restoration of so-called democracy was by Nepali people. Maoists and SPA have no rights to claim that credit for this partial success should go for them.

People, People, and People..............................................

 
Posted on 05-03-06 2:45 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thaha_Panyen
but they did pay them to protest i think if SPA and Mao wants to claim then india has to claim too. they had a big hand in this democracy...............
 
Posted on 05-03-06 3:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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SOMEONE HAD TO PAY, RIGHT? THE MONEY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY.
 
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manepalihokya and M5
wht happen have nothing to say
 
Posted on 05-03-06 8:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Amrit,
Let me make it clear, I am not a fan of Girija et al. But I don't think speaking nepali well is a requisite to be a patriot. But have you heard any of king's speeches? He lacks the charisma of a leader. And what's that about "condolence". Many innocent people died under King's direct rule and I am not aware ony condolence from king.

Suvachintak,

Where and how did king represent us and our unique culture? What conspiracy did king see 14 month before anyone else? You saw those people, whom king brought in , to keep vigilance of those corrupt leaders. King wished to improve the country but he was incapable to do so. He was inefficient, don't blame his luck.

It's better now that we are no more ruled by King anymore. Now we are being ruled by those whom we can keep or throw in our wish without being killed.

I am optimistic that we the country has gain some kinetics with hope. I was bored with the stagnant state of the country that plagued the country for more than three years.
 
Posted on 05-03-06 9:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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SUNNY, YOU GOT SOME VALID POINT THERE DUDE.
 
Posted on 05-03-06 9:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Agree with Sunny Dev...except our country has been stagnant for some time...not only 3 years...u can say since Democracy came in the 1990s or since the Panchayat system started...

Thaha Panyen: I am waiting to see if that "People People People" slogan is for real....SPA is already bickering for key positions......Hope for the best....
 
Posted on 05-04-06 3:40 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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No innocent people died under the king's direct rule. They were promaoists. Why did the so called innocents shout when they don't even know what they are shouting. Do you call someone who fires at the security personnel or throws stones at them innocent???
 
Posted on 05-04-06 4:29 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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pro royalists are so out of reality. maybe if the RNA showers bullets from a helicopter in kathmandu indiscriminately then they might understand what killing innocent civillians mean.
 
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R u Nepali or indian not to know king reprisenting our cultur do you not celebrate dashain.....and many more festiveles.......haave you read the history. i m pretty sure you havent lived in nepal...............with the way you think.....
king was completely capeable but with his luck and india playing there game with politician. if king wanted he could have done what pakistan did he care about his people thats why he gave it up before there is more violence....................
ya it is better for king he ddont have to waist his time bringing some sense to
brain washed nepali people...................
ya you can throw out the netas now but if you throw one another one of same kind will come so tell me how many time has our present pm been pm in past 10 years?????

yes we can only hope and we have been doing that for last 14 years...............

and i dont think we will see any difference years to come...............
kukur ko puchar lai kahile pani sida garna sakindaina.....................
 
Posted on 05-04-06 4:35 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Birbhadra
thoes people were not innocent thoes people were in the front of peaceful protest throwing stone at Police...................if some one punch you and keeps punching you you are bound to hit back .......................
 
Posted on 05-04-06 4:42 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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suvachintak i agree with you 100%. These people have herd mentality. They don't care for Nepal. They don't have the foresight or vision.
 
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I do "celebrate dashain.....and many more festiveles." But I don't know what the hell king has to do with my celebration or for that fact, my culture. Except for the traffic problem whenever they visit shrines in those festivals.

"No innocent people died under the king's direct rule."
Were you in coma for couple years? Sane people laugh at such a blatant lie. haaa....

Back to condolence issue. I haven't heard king sending condolence to any of his "Raitis". If thousand is the minimum requirement, more than enough people has been killed.
But i didn't blame kingn as inefficient just because he didn't showed sympathy toward nepalese but because he didn't have a convincing plan and his PR skill succksss.

Anyone can undersatnd why King gave up his stance. It's not the love of the people but it was the last resort to save monarchy.

I may be brain washed or not
May have herd mentality or not
One thing is sure, I am different than you.
 
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Yes... It is true...

country infrastructure is the main foundation of nation.

India has long way to go.

There are 3 - 4 billion people and 4 people are richest people in the world.

India has to well plan and develope infrastrue, security, political stability, peace and quality education for majority population.

India has to change majority population's modern mentality. But it is not happening tomorrow.
 
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SunnyDev
of course there will be traffic blocked its king thats going through. even when pm travels traffic is blocked.........its not only in nepal thats how it is any where in the world..............

"Were you in coma for couple years? Sane people laugh at such a blatant lie".
if you are including maobadi then i have nothing to say to you......................u must be smoking something to say maobadi is normal janta ...............they are killer and they will always be...................

"Back to condolence issue".
you certenly didnt watch or listen to kings last speech he is the first one to give condolence
i havent heard any pm or india give condolences,
thoes people people asked for it and they got the result...............i am pretty sure these netas just took advantage of the situtaion and they were not even politician who died they were kates..............

"he didn't have a convincing plan and his PR skill succksss'
so you think thoes pake netas have good PR skill.................. fist of all they dont even have speeking skill.there manners are worst then a dog...............dont have respect for any one all they care about is money and power..............

"Anyone can undersatnd why King gave up his stance. It's not the love of the people but it was the last resort to save monarchy"
I agree that king gave up cuz he wanted to save monarchy......
if you or me or any one where in his place they will do the same thing they will try to save there family and home............... but difference with king is he will try to save family which is nepali janta for him and house is his country...........
but for us and any other people we dont care about any one but our selfes when it comes right down to it............
and for netas family is them self and home is there bank acc..............

"One thing is sure, I am different than you"
dha....i thought i was talking to my self.............
of course you i am . and i am proud of it ................
and you will never be like me and i wish not in million year to be like you ...................
all i care is about is people of nepal and my country which belive 200% that king did the same.................. but with conspiricy.................. now he has to watch his won country beeing sold and his own janta being fooled.....................
and you are one of the fooles..........................
 
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"and you will never be like me and i wish not in million year to be like you ...................
and you are one of the fooles.......................... "

I could say the same regardless. But for the sake of maintaining difference between us, let it go.

" if you are including maobadi then i have nothing to say to you......................u must be smoking something to say maobadi is normal janta ......."
Yeah even in high, I noticed that the state killed a lot of innocent. Lot more are still missing. It may be news for you and may not believe it. Mind it, security force has not deny this and some responsibility goes to prithuladhish.

"so you think thoes pake netas have good PR skill.................. "
I didn't say that. I am not comparing Netas with King. Comparision is a different thing. What I am saying is King showed his incompetence. Municipality Election was an example. This is not how you lead the country. No no no..., don't say me that SPA didn't let him work his way. It's a game. To prove yourself a hero, you should be a winner. Anyone , even those SPA netas can be the star in a game without opponents.

"but difference with king is he will try to save family which is nepali janta for him and house is his country........... "
I don't see any reason why nepali janta and Nepal will be in danger without monarchy. With monarchy, we were equally unsafe as we are now and will be the same until Maoist problem is solved. Unless maoists are disarmed and guilty are brought to justice. I can see some hope now but still not sure. We Nepali has always learned a hard way.

"who died they were kates.............. "
This is just another repetition of SSJB Rana's interview in BBC. "You people" yes ,you people have different standard to call someone nepali. That's the attitude and mentality I hate.
Why don't you say those who protest kings rule are all kates? your wish. That's the difference between us.
 
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Sunnydev is Indian- he is posing like a Nepali. sunnydev-You go and give your ass to your Indian bros and never dare to talk bull.... again. If u do it will be more evident of your being a vusya indian kukkur !
 
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See the difference. Haa...
I love people getting irritated by themselves.

Nepal is not a club of few thousands happy campers. Nepal Aaama has more than 27 millions children. Almost all of them care for their mother land.
I am wrong and you are wrong unless we can convince those millions that we do care for the country. King failed to do so once. Failure is a part of life. I would say "Mr. King try it again. Good Luck."
By the way where is the bull? huh?
 
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SunnyDev
i think you are not serious about the topic i think you are just writting , it as fun
so there is no point....................... dimag ma gu...bare cha tesaile you are joiking around..

by the way bull is you and your head is filled with shit..............................
 



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