फेब्रुअरी १ को शाही-कदमको समर्थनमा डी. सी. र न्यूयोर्क मा केही पुराना राजावादीहरु, केही नवराजावादीहरु र केही आफु राजावादी नभएको तर बहुदलिय प्रजातन्त्रबाट मोहभंग भएको भन्ने शान्तिकामीहरुले गरेको ससाना प्रदर्शनलाई उनिहरुले "हजारौंले भाग लिएको विशाल पदर्शनहरु" भनेर नेपालको सरकारी संचारबाट प्रचार गराए ।

आजसम्म पनि नेपालबाट साथीसंगीहरु सोध्ने गर्छन्, के साच्चै अमेरिकाका सबै नेपालीहरु राजाको कदमको समर्थन गर्छन ?

र यस्तो प्रश्न मलाई मात्र होईन मैले कुरा गर्न पाएका लगभग सबै अमेरिका-सहवासीहरुलाई नेपालका उनिहरुका आफन्तहरुले सोध्ने गर्दा रहेछन् ।

भनेसी प्रोपेगाण्डा कार्यमा अमेरिकाका राजावादीहरुले क्षणिक नै सही तर ठूलो उपलब्धी हासिल गरेछन् ।

प्रोपेगाण्डाको लागि सरकारी मात्र हैन गैरसरकारी माध्यम समेत प्रयोग गरे आयोजकहरुले । 'नेपाली टाईम्स' मा एकजना आयोजक महोदयले डी. सी. को प्रदर्शनलाई 'बहुसंख्यकहरुको प्रतिनिधित्व' (majority representation) भनेर दावी गरे । स्वतन्त्र माध्यमबाट गरिएका यस्ता पुटले 'राजमुकुट प्रति प्रतिबद्ध' सरकारी माध्यमहरुले गरेको प्रचारका अविश्वसनियतालाई कम गरे हुनन् ।

एनिवे, "के साच्चै अमेरिकाका सबै नेपालीहरु राजाको कदमको समर्थन गर्छन ?" भन्ने नेपालका आफन्त संगीसाथीहरुको प्रश्नको उत्तर दिंदा दिंदा हैरान हुनु भएका प्रजातन्त्रप्रेमी साथीहरु डी. सी. को नजिक हुनुहुन्छ भने यही Sunday, May 15, 2005 का दिन White House अगाडि हुने Pro-Democracy Rally मा पाल्नुहोला ।

नेपे जरुर उपस्थित हुनेछ त्यहाँ तपाईहरुसंग न्यानो अभिवादन साटासाट गर्न ।

Rally Organizers,

If the news about the presence of Sujata in the rally is true, it is a very big shame to you. After the failure of KG within 3 months of his absolute rule, Nepalese people are searching alternative democratic leaders, not the ones Newuser noted. If you still can not come outside of these corrupted leaders, it is nonsense to support the so-called democratic rally. In my opinion, it is better to have a rally in support of the Maoists than to expose these nonsense leaders like Sujata Koirala and follow their corrupted path. At least Maoists are not corrupted and they have put their lives in the line of fire and they are fighting for some good reasons with absolutely nice slogans. Unfortunately, their way of fighting by killing people is very condemnable. I am telling this because if we have to choose among the bads, it is better to choose the less bad.

A request to the participants of the rally:

*PLEASE DO NOT LET SUJATA TO THE PODIUM.. DO NOT LISTEN TO HER. SHE IS A COMPLETE EVIL FOR NEPAL*

read - http://www.nepalipost.com/discussion.html#454

Sujata is not invited....

Newuser and PDQ1 ji,

Please refrain from running after rumors or rather making one yourselves.

From where did you get the information that Sujata is the guest of honor ?

The line from Washington Post news report "Sujata Koirala, a member of the Nepali Congress party and daughter of former prime minister G.P. Koirala , will be joining the protesters Sunday."

Isn't this what you are talking about, Newuser ji ?

It says participation, not addressing. And the reporter got this information not from the organizers, but from Sujata herself. Got that ?

It's one thing to talk about how much desirable/undesirable is Sujata's presence there, and it's totally different thing to confuse ordinary participation on her own to invitation to be a guest of honor.

Nope, Princess Suji ain't the guest of honor. Not at all. I am positive.

Friends,

A lot of discussions going on here regarding the rally.

Here is what was passed in one of the DC Rally Coordination Committee meetings regarding policy towards visiting Nepali citizens:

"...It was decided that since this rally was organized by the Nepalese residing in North America, the rally coordination committee will welcome the 'free will', participation of visiting citizens of Nepal but stage slots will NOT be granted. MC to enforce....."

This was passed way before that news came out. Hope this clarifies the issue.

See you all in DC on Sunday with strong voices and pro-democracy banners.

-ViVashMe

म त जाने वाला छैन। यो -याली ले केहि लछार्ने छैन।
न राजावादीको -याली ले लछार्छ, न यस्ले।
जु जोगी आए पनि कानै चिरेका॥

हैन नेपाळि लाई के भो भन्या खुरु खुरु सबैले आफ्नो काम ग-या भए यो स्थिती नै आउने थिएन

के पनि गरि सकें, दैलो पनि देखें भन्छन नि त्यै भा हो।

Lets wait for three days more and see what goes on the rally. If Sujata been honured as she should not be, then you people are no better than those who joined maoist from Rolpa for food and living. You people are educated and in US, I hope you know what is wrong and what is right. Till date we are in the concept that our brains have been drained to US and Europe. This event will prove wheather that statement issture or false in the way you treat to Sujata.

I am not in US and would love to see what difference you people can make in the near future. My suggestion is , if you can not give positive knowledge to the new generation, please for the god shake don't give negative too.

MERO DESH, MREO DHERTI, MERO AAMA BACHI RAHUN SADA SADA KO LAGI.......

Hey Sursab dude,
>> I am not in US and would love to see what difference you people can make in the near future.
The answer to this would be "NOTHING"
>> MERO DESH, MREO DHERTI, MERO AAMA BACHI RAHUN SADA SADA KO LAGI.......
I like this one dude but these organizers are totally different than what you think. You should come and see these neta's white buffalo looking wives (you wonder why, don't you?). These people will crack you up man if you meet them. Last thing we needed is that beeyatch from Nepal (Sujata Koirala), its like a god damn drama now.

peace dude ;)

Nepeji said:

'Please refrain from running after rumors or rather making one yourselves.

From where did you get the information that Sujata is the guest of honor ? '

Let me assure you that I don't run after rumors neither I intend to make one. I want the rally to be a grand success. Let the Americans know that Nepalese are in favour of democracy and let the royalists know that a big majority of the Nepalese in the USA oppose absolute monarchy. Hence I want to see thousands of Nepalese participating in the rally.
I didn't get any information about Sujata being the guest of honour. But the newspaper report suggests that she wants to be a star attraction in the rally. There are peoples amongst the organisers who want to please Sujata and my intention was to thwart their enthusiasm for promoting a very corrupt woman as a prodemocratic leader of Nepal. Honestly, I don't see any reasons for supporting parties and politicians if the likes of Sujatas are to remain their prominent leaders. It's time to prohibit, refuse them from infiltrating in the political scene. I thought you would realise what 'guest of honour' meant before implying it as an attempt to spread rumour. I am just surprised how you could take a negative note on my comment.

नेपेजी अव पनि तिनै पुराना भ्रष्टहरुकै हालिमुहाली चल्ने हो भने प्रजातन्त्रको कोरा आदर्श छाट्नुको कुनै अर्थ रहन्न । गलत मानिसहरुलाई साथ लिएपछि उद्येश्य प्राप्ति झन असम्भव बन्दै जान्छ। सुधार सवभन्दा पहिला आफ्नो समूह, पार्टीभित्रबाटै शुरु हुनुपर्छ। फेरी पनि राजनीतिक पार्टीहरु तिनै भ्रष्ट, अनैतिक, निर्लज्ज नेता र कार्यकर्तालाई अग्रपंक्तिमा उभ्याएर जनता सामु देखा पर्छन भने तिनले कदापी समर्थन प्राप्त गर्न सक्नेछैनन। कम्तिमा म सुजाताजस्ता भेडाको छाला ओढेका व्वाँसाहरुलाई प्रजातान्त्रिक -यालीमा सकृय सहभागी भएको देख्?न चाहन्न । नेतृत्व तपाईहरु नै लिनुस तर त्यसता नीचहरुको साथ कहिल्यै नलिनुस। सकिन्छ भने सुजातालाई -यालीमा सकृयता देखाउन नदिनोस, हैन भने पनि मेरो प्रजातान्त्रिक निष्ठा प्रति शंका व्यक्त गर्ने कुनै अधिकार कसैलाई छैन। तपाईंका शव्दमा भन्दा राजा रजौटा प्रवृत्तिलाई जरै देखि उखल्न जरुरी छ। त्यसको पहिलो शुरुवात सुजाताजस्ता लाई बहिष्कार, घृणा, अपमान, लज्जित पारेर गर्नुभए राम्रो हुनेछ। -याली भव्य रुपमा सफल होस, तपाईंहरुको अनवरत प्रयाशको परिणाम सानदार होस। शुभेक्षक, न्यूयुजर।

I don't get this, how can you belive these group of duds who denies the fact that beeyatch sujata was cordially invited to take part in this rally. All these netas from nepal and the wanna be jharpat netas have one thing in common, they lie, they like to lie, they lie a lot and they lie like a mother F**KER. These suckers will still deny even if you see sujata on the stage. Its the way they present themself in front of people.

Bull Shit

Here you go, another one.

newuser-jee,

I have had utmost respect for your relentless efforts to make the democratic voices heard -- especially at times when many seem to be blindly supporting repression, voices like yours and mine are precious and direly needed. Our first encounter of differences (and it is only very mild this time, may I add) -- which is only normal in a truly democratic process -- does nothing to alter my respect and sincere admiration for you democratic stance.

You suggested that I probably should have deleted the "Sujata" part from the Washington Post report. I beg to be alarmed! If any truly democratic person chose to hide the facts, or lie about them, then how would he be any different from KingG who has chosen to rule by the decree of lies, propaganda, and the suppression of the press to abet his such evil methods of ruling?

All in all, I think these whole exchanges in this thread is a classic example of how democracy should/must work. I presented the report as it was. There were many who disliked parts of what they read. They made their voices heard. Now, the organizers know exactly what the ramifications are of letting Sujata assume a higher profile at the rally. This puts tremendous pressure on the organizers to give in to the public demands that Sujata not be allowed on the stage at all. And I trust that they will not. Voila! Perfect democracy at work!

However, given the slightest chance of grave error, if any of the speakers turns out to be a jerk, and wishes to acknowledge the presence of Sujata in any form whatsoever, or if she is called upon the stage, believe me, I will be the first one to boo her out of the scene. I am sure everyone else who rightly wishes to express their loathe for Sujata or what she represents -- a truly dysfunctional and loathesome political leaders -- will join me in doing so too. All the more reason for the likes of you and others who have expressed disgust at the mention of Sujata to join the rally!

Now, about banning her totally from being at the rally at all. Once again, preventing ANYONE -- be it a hated political figure, a Maoist, or even a staunch royalist for that matter -- would be as undemocratic as what you and I have been standing against. We are the proponents of democracy, and we shoudl not even entertain the idea of forcefully preventing someone from participating at a rally that is advocating principles of personal liberty and freedom.

Having said that, the organizers, by the virtue of them being in charge of the show, do have a huge leverage over who to let/not let on the stage. Sujata MAY be attending the rally as an ordinary Nepali citizen, but she will in NO WAY be given any prominence at all. If she is, as I said earlier, we willl boo her out of the stage and let her know how exactly we detest her and what she represents.

Another thing that has disppointed me about your statements is that you introduced the notion of Sujata being a "guest of honor" at the rally. The report clearly does not suggest that Sujata will be a "guest of honor." If anything, she has focused more on Dinesh Prasain, a human rights activist, than on Sujata. I understand your intentions were benign and you've already explained what you meant, but this does little to prevent our opponents from picking on it against us -- not that they will not pick on anything at all no matter what, but it's rather self destructive to give them anymore ammunition than they already might think they have.

Regardless of benign intentions, newuser-jee, it always does good if we steadfastly stick to the truth, openness, and not let unnecessary emotions take over rationality in a difficult process of democracy.

My intentions were to discuss with you freely and frankly some of the aspects of our differences with all due respect to our common goal of achieving freer society in Nepal. I hope you will not take it otherwise.

:)

By addressing newuser in the above post, I hope I have also answered some of the other valid concerns expressed by other posters too.

And please note that I am only one of coordinators from New York, and am not involved directly with organizing the rally. Whatever I have written is from my personal capacity and does not necessarily reflect the views of the organizing committee, although I have good reasons to believe that they would conform with it.

Nepe,
Sujata certainly was invited to join this rally by certain people (rally organizers), whom i don't want to name here. One cannot deny the fact that Girja is the mukhauta of Nepali democracy manau ya na manau, so goes with his daugher Sujata. So Sujata ma ko gun gau ra DC rally ma bhag li u.

The Article from the post shows the true purpose and the people behind the protest. As I had mentioned before... we are no Bhada Bahkhra to join a mob like watching tamasaa in Tudiikhel. As I had mentioned before... WHAT IS THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THIS RALLY ? and WHO WAS ORGANIZING IT ? Nobody had the slightest clue. Now the truth comes out..heh heh WE THE PEOPLE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES BENEFITING FROM THIS PROTEST...heh heh
I WOULD RATHER STAY HOME AND WATCH TV THAN TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR ANY OPPERTUNISTS....

The organizers had nothing to do with the "Sujata" part in the Washington Post report. The reporter was personally responsible for the information that she got independently, and the rally organizing committee does not endorse the "Sujata" aspect of the report.

A concern/condemnation regarding the "Sujata" was sent to the reporter (Nora Boustany) by one of the rally organizers, and here is the copy of the response that she sent:

(I have chosen to delete some private information from the email in order to protect the privacy of the individuals involved)

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Here is the response from Nora

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Subject: FW: News on Washington Post
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:14:15 -0400



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From: Nora Boustany [mailto:boustanyn@washpost.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: News on Washington Post


Dear ,

Thank you for your note. She is here and I spoke with her directly, so there will be no correction, I am afraid. You can talk to people at the Amnesty International office. A lot of Nepalese who are here are joining the rally I heard. bests. Nora

Nora Boustany
Diplomatic Dispatches
The Washington Post
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it doesnt matter if she isnt invited to the podium, just her presence will overshadow the rally...it will be more about her than the cause....maybe we will hear more about her "escape from nepal"....good luck guys...i dont prefer to waste my weekend in sujata ko company

डी. सी. को ?याली आयोजकहरुले सिक्नु पर्ने र बुझ्नु पर्ने कुराहरु:

नेपाली सेना तथा प्रहरीको मनोबल बढ्ने खालका प्लेकार्ड देखाउनु पर्छ। अमेरिकामा बसेसि यहांका जुनसुकै बिचार मान्ने मान्छेले पनि Support Our Troops भन्ने बम्पर स्टिकर टांसेको त सबैले अवस्य देखेको हुनु पर्छ। भोलि ब्यवस्था परिबर्तन भो भनेपनि सुरक्षाकर्मी त तिनै हुन। त्यसैले यो ?याली कसैको सेखि झार्नमा मात्र सीमित छैन भने हरेक देश भक्त नागरिकले सहि कामको थालनि गर्न चुक्नु हुन्न।

अर्को कुरा भविश्यमा झूठो नै सावित किन नहोस तर राजाले देशको बिद्यमान समस्याको समाधान गर्न ३ वर्षको समय मागेका छन। कमसेकम त्यसबाट एउटा झिनो आशा गर्न सकिन्छ कि उसंग एउटा लक्ष छ, दृष्टि छ। जुनकुराको अभाव राजनैतिक पार्टीहरु र माओवादीमा छ। त्यसैले उनीहरुको संघर्ष पनि अनिस्चित कालका लागि छ। अब राजनैतिक पार्टीहरुले पनि एउटा समय रेखा कोर्नु पर्यो जुन सत्ता प्राप्तिको हैन तर समस्या समाधानको।

प्रजातन्त्रमा आफ्नो आवाज उठाउन सबैको समान हक हुन्छ। राजाको समर्थनमा ?याली निकाल्नेहरुका आफ्नै कारणहरु थिए र अहिले बिरोधमा जुलुस निकाल्नेहरुका पनि धेरै बैधानिक कुराहरु होलान। एकले अर्काको खिल्लि नउडाईकन पनि ति आवाज सुनाउन सकिन्छ भन्ने मेरो अनुमान हो। जतिसुकै राजावादी भनेर सुगा रटाई गरे पनि एउटा निश्पक्ष सोचाई राख्ने मान्छेले दुबै पक्षका जायज कुरा बुझ्न सक्छ। राजाको समर्थनमा जेस मोहन श्रेष्ठ (आई. जी. पी. कृष्ण मोहन श्रेष्ठ का भाई) जस्ता माओवादी पीडितहरुको उपस्थिति थियो जसका दाजु भाउजुको निर्मम हत्या गरियो र चैनपुरको २ वटा घर बम हानेर ध्वस्त पारियो। कसैलाई सुजाता कोईरालाको प्रजातान्त्रिक हक महत्वपूर्ण छ भने कसैलाई बांच्न पाउने हक।

बिरोधका निम्ति सब एकजुट भएर लड्ने परम्परा हाम्रो देशको राजनितिमा कुनै नौलो हैन। भागबण्डामा मात्र हो झगडा हुने। भोलि भागवण्डामा एकता सम्भब हुदैन भन्ने कुराको साक्षी त ?यालीका बहुपक्षिय समुह नै हुनेछन्। यतिसम्म कि देशको सम्बिधानको उल्था पनि सत्ता भित्र र बाहिर हुंदा फरक तरिकाले गरेको प्रजातन्त्रवादीबाट पाईयो। संसदको अन्तेष्ठि गर्ने पनि शेरबहादुर, सत्तामा रहदा प्रजातन्त्रको वकालत गर्ने पनि शेरबहादुर, चुनाव गराउन नसक्ने पनि शेरबहादुर, जनताका समस्या प्रति कानमा तेल हालेर बस्ने पनि शेरबहादुर र सत्ता बाहिरबाट संसदको पुन:स्थापना गर्न लड्ने योद्धा पनि शेरबहादुर। यस्तो खाले प्रजातन्त्रको परिभाषा कसैले पचाएनन् भने के अनौठो भो? त्यसैले एउटाको पुजा गर्न अर्काको घांटी सेर्ने प्रबृतिलाई टेवा नपु-याउं भन्ने मेरो सुझाव मात्र हो।

PDQ1,

The fact is, as Poonte ji has explained enough, the ORGANIZING COMMITTEE has not invited Sujata. That's what matters. Some individual's private invitation, if there is one, does not matter.

So please show some diligence at least not to let wrong information go out.

And I am surprised with your negligent, irresponsible and disrespectful remarks to the rally and it's purpose. तर ठम्म्याँई आफ्नो आफ्नो । मलाई प्रतिवाद गर्नु छैन ।

Re Democracy being made synonymous with Girija, yes, that's what happened until now. Like King is what monarchy is all about, Girija et al also thought they are what Democracy is all about and others let it be that way.

Things are slowly changing. You will see a sign of that change in the rally, although the main purpose of the rally is protest against a Super Girija who thinks he is what the whole nation called Nepal is all about.

So, may I ask you what are your plans ? Joining the huge pro-democracy rally in DC or a tiny pro-cynicism rally here in Sajhaland ?

Its not enough that they messed up the country... Them long hands seem to have the reach all the way to DC. Now do I want to show my face there and let this OPPERTUNIST take credit ? NO I DON"T THINK SO.

They had 15 fking years, they've got to admit their mistakes first(then apologise)..and cough up all $$$ they massed up(give it back to UN humanitarian aid in Nepal..then maybe I can join them in the same group) after that I can join them.

I understand Poonte's effort to keep it neutral. BUt those wolves would never give up when they see a trail of blood ...heh heh like vultures.