India is developing in such a fast pace that by 2030, the standard of average Indians will sky-rocket. While their neighboring country Nepal is running downhill where political leaders have no agenda for future developments. If this trend of running downhill continues in Nepal, I fear Nepal will be as like Mexico is to America, a burden. These are latest developments in India:

I am comparing Mexico with America not with India, and I am comparing Nepal with India. I totally agree that India has a long way to go but India is moving in a fast pace! They are having big ideas and that matters. Development is not achieved overnight. Corruption is rampant in India but also remember when a country becomes economically powerful, the problem of corruption and many other problems starts fading away. Comparing Nepal and India, whose economy is more powerful? The problem of load-shedding in Nepal was not the result of overnight problem but was the result of long term corruption involved within Nepal Electricity Authority. It is a shame that Nepal which is full of resources has to go through 17-18 hours of load shedding.

Any sustainable development needs long term planning, patience and mainly quality education to all its citizens. Whatever we see outside is the result of our thoughts. India possess nuclear weapon, they have space program, and many universities in India are ranked as world class institution. This is a good start for India which was ruled by British for hundred years. Many Indian graduates are returning back to India because there are jobs in India. But Nepal is not been able to create jobs.  If this trend countinues India will move to that level where it will become very hard for Nepal to catch up.

We Nepalese boast about our Khukuri. This is the era of Nuclear Weapon!

Also, the development of India will be very different comparing to USA because of the influence of Vedic heritage in India. During Bharat Barsha, India never envaded any country.

@riddle, I used the word burden because Mexico is creating  many problems within the US. If France was the neighboring country of USA, the situation would have been completely different.

https://www.google.com/search?q=mexico+city&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NJPbUpn8BMi82gW7r4DoCQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=955

65 million Indians still live in the slums and Mexico has lost more than 100,000 people in drug war. Nepal is in far better place than India and Mexico.

if i travel to southern border of Nepal i feel the other way around.I feel India as Mexico and Nepal as US because lots of Indians come to Nepal (in our case legally because of open border) to work as barbers,khali sisi bottle(i have no English term for this) and labors (mostly for building houses). Indian side of the border is crowded and trash with full of crimes whereas Nepal's side of border is relatively clean,less populated and free of crimes.
One of my teacher who happened to be a Nepali from Darjeeling told me.If all hobos of India decide to come to Nepal we Nepalese will have no place to live.
One more point,just for fun.We are towards the North like US and India is South like Mexico.
I don't mean to say Nepal is developed like US.We cannot compare two countries with the ratio of some other two countries.

Please bear in mind that I am not just talking about present India or present Nepal. This is a future prediction. I may be wrong but there is a clear indication where both countries (India and Nepal) are heading towards. America didn't became America overnight. It was their thoughts and hard work that shaped present America. Champak 123, I totally agree that Indian side of border is filthy comparing to Nepal side of border. It's more peaceful too. But how long will it stay the same is the matter of question here.
Today's thoughts shapes tomorrow's future. Nepal is running downhill and India is moving uphill.

@Vootee... भाषाको प्रयोग गर्दा अलि सभ्य हुन सिक्ने हो कि?

I have posted a thread few months back about few of the ongoing and pipeline projects of Nepal that can transform Nepal to mid-leveled developed countries of Asia like Vietnam and Burma in initial phase of completion and revenue, human resource and technology thus generated after few years can transform Nepal to countries like Thailand and Malaysia. Few of these projects to be named are:
1) Sikta, Babai & Kankai Irrigation Project
2) Upper Karnali, Upper Arun, West Seti, Budhi Gandaki, Upper Tamakoshi, Sunkoshi Hydro power projects
3) Mid-Hill Highway, Kathmandu-Terai Fast track, Kathmandu-Hetauda Fast track, North-South Corridors
4) Decentralization of population from Kathmandu and Terai region to Hilly Cities located on vicinity of Mid-Hill highway
5) Nijgadh International airport, Vairabha & Pokhara regional airport
6) Melamchi water project
7) Developing Lumbini as Mecca/Madina/Vatican of Buddhists
8) Road expansion in Kathmandu and big cities of Nepal
9) Commercial/sustainable farming of green vegetables, seasonal fruits, herbs, dairy products, cash crops and grains suitable according to the places/regions
10) Managing government/regional hospitals according to the Dhulikhel Community Hospital model and making sure each districts have at least 5 such hospitals
11) Solar/Wind power generation in Upper Himalayan and upper mountainous regions where it is not feasible to connect national grid.
12) Promoting eco/religious/rural/local tourism
13) Transformation of government schools and colleges based on community management and banning politics on-campus other than student's association formed to take care of student's issues/problems

Mexico, is one the booming economy right now along with India, China, Brazil along with few other countries. Mexico have huge resources, they have just started drilling oil. Mexico is getting better everyday. Ofcourse it has some problems, but that can be easily handled, if US shows some real desire.

May be the thing is US is problem for Mexico, then Mexico being problem for US. It's because US was not able to control drugs sold in street, Mexico is suffering huge flow of black cash which cartel use to fight against Mexican authority. Cartel from all over the world make Mexico as gateway to billions of drug market, and Mexico have to use its resource to fight against it , rather then spending resource on other stuff. Now one more thing is popping up, because US, can't control it's unregulated workforce within US, human trafficker all over world are using mexico as it pathway to US. Now just because Mexico has border to US, it has to spend huge resource and life's fighting these cartel and traffickers.

So, the basic concept that always poor or undeveloped country is problem to its rich neighbour is completely flawed.

Regarding Nepal , it will get better, but we are loosing time, when whole world is moving very fast right now, we are stuck on this mess. 10-15 years of very good governance can easily transform Nepal. But problem is with people , we haven't even elected one party with majority to run government for years , how can there be stability.

I'm not quite sure what Ujl is basing his prediction upon. Overdose of Vedas, I'm guessing.

Good question riddle. I do see India is trying very hard and doing a lot of things right. But it's important to consider like what other posters said above. Misery associated with the traditional culture of corruption/religious dogmas/social hierarchy will significantly weigh down India's flight for a long time.

Chest thumping patriotism or desire to feel better about themselves is very strong in India especially due to their history of 'gulami'. When sensation-fueling Indian media cater nothing but 'mera bharat mahan', it is difficult for some naive minds not to be single tracked to whatever they feed rather than pondering what else is/could be out there.

Especially, the India's current stand against the US and overblown by Indian news media really fuels those simple minds to conclude that 'oh my god India is really the super power in every thing'. And perhaps they start noticing ONLY the flattery pictures, the growth..the Ambanis...etc..not the complete picture.

Possibilities r high.... One day India will ask for visa for Nepalese to enter India & Nepalese might ve to cross border like Mexican do everyday to come & work in US. Nepal 'll b like dark under the lighting Candle. Hate it or like it -its da reality, unless otherwise some can change....

Nice to see we all being engaged in such type of discussions. But, you know what it is a lot easier to sit down on your chair, turn on your laptop and start criticizing politicians, and making all sorts of comparision when you know that the real person who can contribute for a change is us (sorry for a lobg sentence). Yes, "WE" are highly educated than an average Nepali and are qualified for a position that can change the structure of our nation. But instead we choose to discuss about our nation in an online forum, or a party and then when we wake up the next day some of us forget about it, some of us still have hangover to overcome from, and some of us go back to work just like any other day to work for our Indian owners (not criticizing or hating them in anyway though).

All this being said, I also become one of us who sits behind the curtains and gives suggestions. But, I am not going to be just that guy. I have 2 more semesters to complete my masters, and then I am going back home. I have made my decision ( and I hope you all support that)...I know it will be a huge struggle to start over. I know my personal life could be a big failure. But, I do not care about that any more. I will do whatever I can to contribute..may it be joining NGOs, schools, or even a political party. The only thing that matters to me right now is taking this step. If I donot take a first step, I can not think of reaching my destination.

I know I might get few respects and supports, and a lot of bashes for being an emotional fool. But, I have already made my mind and my decision will not change.

I love my country and I think...I think its good to die in your own country trying to make some change than in a foreign soil...after all we all are going to die one day.

Respect to all sajha brothers!!

 

time to update the nationalism...fun read here..

Monday, November 4, 2013

Updating the Nationalism

The crucial question that yields every time I see a fellow Nepali taking pride in birthplace of Buddha or Mt. Everest is “Are not we done embarrassing ourselves?”



Credit:
http://nshrestha116.blogspot.com/2013/11/updating-nationalism.html

@ Nero....that was a nice read. I enjoyed it. It is time to update our aggressive tribal mentality and move towards creative intelligence.
@Vhootee... Development is not just about materiality. Inner awareness plays extremely important role in sustainable development. The developments in USA are amazing but USA is also adopting exploitation of poor countries and countries where government is lax. For example: Wal-Mart. Would you like to go to China and work in an assembly line? I guess not. Science has made humans powerful but it is of no use if we don't know how to use it for the benefits of all humanity. This is where Vedas comes into play. Vedas teaches how to bring about behavior that are in coherence with total natural law. For how long will America sustain this consumerism? America will collapse soon because this planet cannot sustain this kind of extreme consumerism. India, on the other hand, because of Vedic influence is trying to create an environment that not just only focus on materialism but also in our relationship with the entire cosmos. America is all about results but India is about result + result's harmonious relationship with all individuals and cosmos. Wal-Mart is still not been able to open its chain in India!

All readers, I am not saying that Mexico is a trash. There is no doubt that Mexico is a developing country like India. I am just trying to bring about an idea that big fish always eat small fish. Therefore, Nepal must move forward not by aggressive tribal mentality but by bringing creative intelligence.

lol Vhootee. Please bear in mind 99.99% of Indians and Nepalese do not follow Vedic culture at all. They follow something called "Hinduism."

@ ujl

??? 99.99% Nepali follow Hinduism. Where are you getting yours statistics from? from gettinhighbombhole.com?

First of all, that 'Peaceful Bharat Barsha theory' is a total nonsense if you take historical and geographical perspectives into consideration. It is just a hoax that have been used by Hindu hardliners in their Hindu Jagaran Abhiyan. The reason why they never invaded other countries is, first of all, the princely states were always busy fighting with each other, to even plan an attack outside the sub-continent. Another big reason is the Himalayas, we all know about Indians and Mountains. Also, unless you take Ramayan or Mahabharat literally, as accurate as it is written, they didn't have advanced navy that would make it cross the ocean to attack other continents.

Regarding American attitude towards Mexico, its like Indians making judgments on Nepal based on the Nepali watchmen or laborer they see in their neighborhood. Visit the world, not just Nepal, India or States, before claiming who is the burden on whom. Visit place like Puerto Vallerta, you will soon find out Fox news is far off the reality. You might even think you chose the wrong country to emigrate. They, even, have a lot of American immigrants there.

Regarding India believing on less consumerism, you might be right. Why would they purchase Laundry machine if they could have their servants hand-wash their clothes for less than a dollar a day? Why would they need drive thru when they can have a chaiwala deliver their food for no tips? The list goes on...

@soaltee, I mean to say 99.99% of Nepalese and Indian follow something other than Vedic culture.

@ujl

The aspects of knowledge is infinite. Who has the power to count how many universes exists at this moment? So, dear Vhootee, I do not claim to know everything. That's the reason I open this thread to predict where both countries (India and Nepal) will be in near future. What do you think about Nepal's future? I would like to hear from you and other readers too. Hopefully, we can come up with solutions to the problem. Bornto_Rise has already given insights on this. Looking for more ideas. This is the time to bring the creative intelligence. Will India lead the world in near future? Will Nepal be a failed nation?